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Shamrock vs. Baroni
- Shamrock Workout Photos -
- Conference Call Quotes -

June 22, 2007
HP Pavilion
San Jose, California
The heat is building for the
Frank Shamrock vs. Phil Baroni clash on June 22nd at the HP
Pavilion in San
Jose, California. During a
conference call on Thursday afternoon, Baroni called Shamrock just about
every
name in the book - with the
crux being he was going to knock Shamrock the f**k out. But Shamrock
summed up his feelings at one
point by stating:
" I am a professional
martial artist, and I am a professional
fighter. Phil is a
professional idiot."
With all the trash talking,
it's reminiscent of the lead up to the first battle between Wanderlei
Silva and
Quenton "Rampage"
Jackson...and that turned out to be a great fight. Look for lightning
to Strike again.
The transcript of the
conference call is below along with some workout photos and write up
courtesy of
Strikeforce.
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Frank Shamrock Workout Photos
MMA legend and former UFC
middleweight champion Frank Shamrock held an open workout for fans
and
media Thursday in his hometown
of San Jose, Calif.
Photos courtesy of: Daisy
Rosas/For Strikeforce
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Shamrock
poses to show off
his "guns"
after his workout
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Shamrock is
interviewed by a
local TV
reporter
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Shamrock
trains with Smith as
his students
observe
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Shamrock
trains with his
kickboxing
coach Maurice Smith
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Shamrock
gets wrapped by his
boxing
coach, Tony DeMaria
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Shamrock
warms ups
with some
shadow boxing
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Shamrock will face
knockout-artist Phil "The New York Bad Ass'' Baroni for the vacant
Strikeforce
middleweight (185-pound)
championship in the main event of a spectacular MMA cage fight card on
Friday,
June 22, at the HP Pavilion at
San Jose, Calif.
In a second world title fight
on a Strikeforce-EliteXC cage fight card that will be produced and
distributed live
by SHOWTIME® PPV (10 p.m. ET/7
p.m. PT), Joey "Dream Smasher'' Villasenor and Murilo "Ninja" Rua will
clash for the vacant EliteXC
middleweight title.
Tickets to "Shamrock vs.
Baroni" are on sale at the HP Pavilion box office, at Ticketmaster Ticket
Centers
and online at
www.ticketmaster.com. One can charge by phone by calling (408) 998-TIXS,
(415) 421-TIXS or
(510) 625-TIXS.
Other scheduled PPV fights
include: EliteXC's Charles "Krazy Horse" Bennett vs. Victor "Joe Boxer"
Valenzuela, lightweights;
Strikeforce's Cung Le vs.Tony "The Freak" Fryklund, middleweights and
Carter
"The Beast" Williams vs. Paul
"The Headhunter" Buentello, heavyweights.
Before the PPV telecast, six
exciting undercard fights will be streamed live at ProElite.com, a
respected,
rapidly growing Internet
destination for the MMA community. First fight is at 7:40 p.m. ET/4:40
p.m. PT.
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Conference Call Quotes
Frank Shamrock
& Phil "The New York Bad Ass'' Baroni
Thursday, June 7, 2007
(NOTE: Due to the rather
graphic/extreme nature of some of the language, this transcript has been
edited).
MMA legend and former UFC
middleweight champion Frank Shamrock and foul-mouthed, trash-talking,
knockout-artist Phil “The New
York Bad Ass” Baroni clash for the vacant Strikeforce middleweight (185-
pound) championship in the
main event of a spectacular MMA cage fight card on Friday, June 22, at the
HP
Pavilion at San Jose, Calif.
If Baroni can fight 1/64th as
tough as he talks, Shamrock could be in for a long night.
In a second world title fight
on a Strikeforce-EliteXC cage fight card that will be produced and
distributed live
by SHOWTIME® PPV (10 p.m. ET/7
p.m. PT), Joey “Dream Smasher” Villasenor and Murilo “Ninja” Rua will
clash for the vacant EliteXC
middleweight title.
Tickets to “Shamrock vs.
Baroni” are on sale at the HP Pavilion box office, at Ticketmaster Ticket
Centers
and online at
www.ticketmaster.com.
One can charge by phone by calling (408) 998-TIXS, (415) 421-TIXS or
(510) 625-TIXS.
Other scheduled PPV fights
include: EliteXC’s Charles “Krazy Horse” Bennett vs. Victor “Joe Boxer”
Valenzuela, lightweights;
Strikeforce’s Cung Le vs. Tony “The Freak” Fryklund, middleweights and
Carter
“The Beast” Williams vs. Paul
“The Headhunter” Buentello, heavyweights.
Before the PPV telecast, six
exciting undercard fights will be streamed live at
ProElite.com,
a respected,
rapidly growing Internet
destination for the MMA community. First fight is at 7:40 p.m. ET/4:40
p.m.
Begin Opening Comments.
- Question: Frank, can we
have some opening comments and thoughts?
Shamrock:
I would just like to thank all the media for being involved and being
supportive of this
monumental event. Not
only Showtime’s first big super fight card, but also the first Showtime
Pay-Per-View
out of San Jose,
California, which, of course is my hometown. San Jose is a martial arts
community and a
marital arts town, and
I’m honored to be fighting for them and representing our fine city. I’d
like to thank the
HP Pavilion for hosting
us once again, and I estimate that we are going to sell a boat load of
tickets on this,
as we usually do. About
the fight, it has been a long time coming. Phil threw out a challenge. I
have gladly
accepted it, and I
would just rather let me actions in the ring do all the talking. I have
done my homework,
and I am ready to show
them what is going on.
- Question: Phil “The New
York Bad Ass’’ Baroni, could we have some opening comments from
you, please?
Baroni:
I do not know what that #**##@####**## hole has been doing, but this is
not grade school. When
they lock the cage
door, I am going to knock his “butt” (not exactly “butt”) out. I am not
thanking anybody. I
could give a
#**##@####**##, really, about who is there. All I care about is June 22,
Judgment Day, when I
knock Frank Shamrock
the #**##@####**## out. Put him back to the seminar circuit where his
“butt”
belongs. You know, he
is a punk. He has a big mouth. He is writing checks with his mouth that
his “butt”
cannot cash, and I am
going to put him to rest in his hometown. Beat him up, knock him out, and
send him
on his way.
- Question: Phil, when did
you first issue a challenge to fight Shamrock?
Baroni:
When he was armchair quarterbacking, when I was fighting the best fighters
around the world, and
he was sitting at home,
ridiculing and talking about everybody. The guy had a lot to say. I never
thought he
would back it up, and I
still will not believe it until we get to the ring and they lock the cage
door. I thought
that he was looking for
a way out of this fight. I do not believe he is going to back it up. I
issued a
challenge. He is the
one that deals with the HP Pavilion. He is the one in with you guys, Gary
Shaw and all
those guys. So I issued
a challenge. Everybody wants to fight that punk. It is not just me. He,
being the
so-called legend, got
to pick his opponent, and he picked the wrong cat. He is getting knocked
out.
- Question: Phil, is
Shamrock a guy you hate more than any other opponent? Does he stand out in
some special way in
regards to not liking him?
Baroni:
I think he is a scum bag. I am not going to hold any punches. The guy is a
hypocrite. I think he is a
fraud, and everyone
that has ever dealt with him, that I know of, does not like him. I mean
Javier Mendez,
who was his old
trainer, all the guys at AKA that I have trained with over the years, Dana
White, UFC
President, who is a
personal friend of mine. Everyone I know that has dealt with the guy
thinks he is a
#**##@####**## hole and
a #**##@####**##. Judgment Day is June 22. I want to see what he is about.
Wait till he steps in
with the real deal. I am the real deal, and I am going to throw punches
with bad
intentions at his
#**##@####**## head and put him to sleep.
- Question: Frank, are you
still sticking by letting your fists do the talking? Or are you going to
respond to this?
Shamrock:
Well, it is what it is. I am a
professional martial artist, and I am a professional fighter. Phil is a
professional idiot. I
let my talking happen in the ring.
Baroni:
Yes, see he did a lot of talking. He is the one that started the bad blood
with his little videos and
this and that. Now he
wants to be the good guy. He has nothing to say because he is embarrassed,
and he
is going to get
smashed. Now it is getting close, buddy. You can feel the heat. I am
coming for you. You
know what I mean? It is
three weeks away, two weeks away, whatever the #**##@####**## it is, and
you
are going to get
knocked the #**##@####**## out. You are going to hurt real badly and there
is nothing you
can do about it now.
There is no backing out. There is no more tough guy talk. No little funny
videos. It is
just going to be me and
you when they shut that door, and there is nowhere to run and there is
nowhere to
hide.
- Question: Phil, can you
talk about those funny little videos?
Baroni:
Go on YouTube. He made a bunch of funny little videos.
- Question: What are they …
do they refer to you specifically?
Baroni:
Yes, you know, they are little funny videos with chicks. I do not know
what the #**##@####**##
they are. They are
funny little videos. Go check them out. I cannot really explain them.
- Question: You are not
amused by them, though?
Baroni:
I think he is wasting his time. Now he wants to … he is a pompous “butt”
hole. He is a fraud. He
acts like … he uses big
words, he is a big idiot. He is a retard, to be honest.
- Question: Frank, where do
you rank yourself amongst today’s top middleweight fighters?
Shamrock:
I have no idea. I have not fought very many people for a length of time,
to be honest. He is just a
stepping stone to move
up, so I am just working my way up.
- Question: From this call
that we have had so far, what bothers you the most about Baroni?
Shamrock:
I do not mind Phil at all. I think he is a great marketer and promoter,
and obviously speaks very
well. He is a mid-grade
opponent, and he looks good, sells tickets. I think he is wonderful. I
have got
nothing against Phil. I
think he is hilarious.
- Question: What are the
strengths Baroni brings to this fight, and do you think he has the cardio
and stamina to last
with you?
Shamrock:
I know he does not have the cardio and stamina to last. The strengths he
brings are brute force
and mindless punching.
So I am prepared for it, and I do what I do.
- Question: Not to look
past Phil and his fight here, but should you come up victorious over
Baroni,
is there a rematch
with (Renzo) Gracie on your radar?
Shamrock:
That would be my next goal. That would be my definite next goal.
- Question: For someone who
has seen the darker side of life and has obviously risen to incredible
heights of success,
what motivates you now?
Shamrock:
I just enjoy being a professional athlete and a professional martial
artist, and enjoy teaching
martial arts and
guiding the community. I enjoy getting in and mixing it up. For me, the
game is still the
same. Just the money is
bigger and the stakes are higher, but this is what I have always loved to
do, and
this is what I plan to
do for awhile.
- Question: Frank, is
getting into your opponent’s head an important thing before a fight?
Shamrock:
Yes, I mean the psychological
game is a big portion of it. All the elements of fighting are
involved, and I work on
all of them, and exploit all of them. It is just part of the game. That is
part of my
game with Phil.
- Question: Is a big goal
of yours to become a champion again in this modern era of MMA, or do
you simply want to
provide for your family well, and just get as much money as you can from
doing what you do?
Shamrock:
My plan is to come back, to
fight the best, and be the best. I did not see a reason to cripple my
body and waste my body
when the sport was not going anywhere. I have been training every day. I
am a
martial artist. I have
been waiting for this moment, and now is my time. Phil is my stepping
stone.
- Question: Phil, what do
you think about being regarded as a stepping stone?
Baroni:
I think he is going to
#**##@####**## trip on this stone. I think it is a big #**##@####**##
stone to
step over. Actually he
is not going to step over it. I am going to #**##@####**## knock his
“butt” down. He
is a #**##@####**##.
That is what everybody thinks. He is going to get #**##@####**## killed. I
regard
myself as one of the
best middleweight fighters in the world. I have fought nothing but the
best, had them
hanging on for dear
life. So if he thinks I am going to fade, he is out of his mind. I am not
going to fade. I am
going to be strong all
five rounds. I am going to beat him for four and a half, and put him to
rest in the fifth.
Right before it ends.
He has another thing coming with the stepping stone. I am the best, you
know. (I have
fought the very best,
and won. In Japan, I got jobbed) the Japanese judges, if their eyes were
not crossed,
they would have known
and gave me the fight. Then they did not know what they were watching. I
have
fought the best
fighters in the world. Who has Frank fought? The one guy in common that we
fought; I
knocked him out in 18
seconds. So this is a big stepping stone. He better do some more homework.
You
must have
#**##@####**## flunked out of high school, “butt” hole, because your
studies are not going that
well.
- Question: Does Shamrock
have the skills to stand up with you?
Baroni:
No. He does not have the skills to stand up with me. He talks a lot of
#**##@####**##. He talked a
lot of #**##@####**##
about Renzo wanting to take the fight to the ground, and he is there to
fight, and he
is a knock out artist.
First of all, who the #**##@####**## has he ever knocked out? He never
knocked
anybody out. I am the
#**##@####**## knock out artist in this weight class, at this game. He
wants to say
I have no stamina. As
soon as I touch a guy anywhere on his body, he is scrambling for the take
down.
There is no way in a
million years he is going to stand up with me. It is funny too, because he
talks so
much #**##@####**##
about Renzo and about (how) Renzo did not want to fight, and how he wanted
out of
there, and he did not
want any part of a fight. I am going to be in the middle of the ring,
ready to trade. If
you want to trade
#**##@####**##, you are getting #**##@####**## quick. It is going to be
bad and ugly in
your own hometown.
Frank is not that stupid. He is not going to trade with me. He is not
going to box with
me. He is not going to
kick box. He is not going to do anything with me. If he does, I am going
to kill him.
There are no ifs, ands
or buts about it. He will not stay on. He does not have the
#**##@####**##, the
testicular fortitude to
get in there and bite down on his mouthpiece, and grit with me. There is
no way he
will do it. So I am not
even … that is not even in my mindset of him trying to stay on me. He has
nothing for
me on his feet at all.
His game plan is to be wrestling around on the ground like a
#**##@####**##, like
they complained about
Renzo doing. Trying to get me tired, and trying to make a boring fight,
trying to pull
something off, which is
not going to happen, because I am twice the athlete he is. I can out-
wrestle him.
So we will see. He is
not going to stand for more than 25 seconds. As soon as I land the first
thing on him,
if he is not sleeping,
he will wish he was.
- Question: Phil, where
have you been training?
Baroni:
I have been training in Vegas, where I have been living the last couple of
years. There is a host of
good guys there. I have
popped in a couple times at Frank’s old gym and trained there.
- Question: Should you be
victorious over Shamrock, where would this position you as a fighter in
the middleweight
division?
Baroni:
Right where I am right now,
you know. I am supposed to win this fight. This is not a stepping stone
for me. This is just me
beating up a #**##@####**##. You know what I mean? Getting to beat up a
punk.
The only thing I have
to gain by this fight is to beat up a “butt” hole. He is not like any of
the guys I have
fought before. After I
win this, I am going to move on to bigger and better things. I am going to
look to
unified titles. Be a
world champion. That is the main difference between me and Frank. Frank
came back
because of the money.
There is money in this sport and opportunity. I am fighting because I want
to be
champion. I was
fighting when there was no money, and I kept fighting. Now there is money,
and it does
not make a difference.
I have been poor and broke my whole life. I am not in it for the money. I
am in it to
prove something to
everybody, and mostly myself, that I am the best fighter in the world.
- Question: Phil, for a
long time, you have made it well known that you wanted two things. One, a
fight with Shamrock;
the other being a title fight. You get them both in the same night. How
sweet
is that for you?
Baroni:
My time is finally here. Like I said, I have fought the best in the world,
and I never got a title shot.
The guys that I beat
were winning titles and getting title shots. The guys that I am better
than are getting
title shots. It is just
finally my shot, and I get to kill (two) birds with one stone. Send this
#**##@####**##
back to #**##@####**##
doing seven hours out of the mainstream public where he wants to be so
badly,
and I get to be a world
champion. I get to defend my title, and prove I have what it takes. Best
in the world.
So this is going to be
a great night for me. I cannot wait. I am going to party my “butt” off for
the next
couple of weeks after I
kill that dude.
- Question: Phil, Joey
Villasenor and Ninja, Murilo Rua, are fighting for EliteXC’s middleweight
title
on the same card.
Has it already been discussed that the winner of your fight with Frank
would
fight that winner?
Baroni:
I have not talked to them about it, but I am sure that is a big
possibility. I am sure they are thinking
about it. Either one of
those guys would be a great opponent for me.
- Question: Phil, do you
have a long term or multiple fight contract, with Strikeforce?
Baroni:
I have a multiple fight
contract with Strikeforce, and it is also non-exclusive, so I will be able
to fight
for any title. After I
knock this guy out and defend my Strikeforce title (I will) bounce around.
(I will) beat up
the winner of
Villasenor-Ninja.
- Question: Frank, there
has been an issue between the two of you since 2002 when you guys were
battling back and
forth on the internet. Back then it seemed like you did not really
consider Phil
to be a sufficient
opponent for you. How do you feel about him now?
Shamrock:
Well, he is a good opponent.
He has a bunch of skills, and he is strong, and he knows how to
wrestle. I have always
thought he was a good opponent. I never thought he would fight me, to be
honest
with you, so for me, it
is a win/win situation. I am pretty excited about it. Phil is up there. He
is a
contender. I do not
think he is the best in the world. In fact, I know he is not the best in
the world. If he
beats me, he beats me.
He is the better man. But I am an artist. I do what I do.
- Question: Assuming you
are successful against Baroni, do you see yourself defending your title
on a regular basis?
Shamrock:
I have my fights planned through ’09. Look, I have always been honest. I
have always been
straight forward. This
is what I always do. This is what I have always wanted to do. I just saw
no reason to
get in and do it for
people I did not want to do it for, and for no money, and cripple my body
up. Part of
being a martial artist
is being a smart businessman. I have always been a smart businessman when
it
came to fighting.
- Question: Who are you
training with right now?
Shamrock:
Training with my guys in San Jose at the Shamrock Martial Arts Academy.
- Question: Frank, does
this still have the same sort of appeal and motivation for you -- after
the
multiple titles you
have won throughout your career?
Shamrock:
(Yes, but) Honestly, I am not
in it for titles. I have won more titles than most people will ever
win. I am in it for the
art, and I am in it to prove to myself the things that I believe to be
true. I am in it to
show the world what
mixed martial arts, and what professional martial artists are about. That
is why I am in
the game.
- Question: Frank, you
mentioned that your schedule is booked up through ’09. Could you talk
about some of the
opponents you have in mind for the future? You mentioned you were
interested in
possibly fighting Ken, and also a rematch with Renzo.
Shamrock:
Well, those two are definitely on my horizon, Renzo being next. There is
another local celebrity
and rising mixed
marital artist named Cung Le, and I would like to fight him sometime in
’08. If me and Phil
have a good fight,
maybe we will give Phil a rematch after he loses. I am very definitive on
what I want to do,
and I would like to get
myself into the game at the highest level, and compete against the best
people out
there and see how I do.
Some of those fights do not have names or faces yet, but they have months
and
times.
- Question: Phil, if you
beat Frank, or knock him out, will that give you another ticket back to
the
UFC?
Baroni:
First of all, I want to
classify, I can go to the UFC any time I want. I have an open invitation
back.
Look at the guys
fighting in the UFC. There is a bunch of bums. TV show reality star
rejects and everything
else. I am more than
good enough to get to fight in the UFC. I am more than good enough to wear
that
middleweight title. I
left because I had to go and fight in the Grand Prix, which I did. There
is an open
opportunity to come
back and fight for the title after I beat Frank Shamrock. It is not to
come back to the
UFC. I can say I want
to go in the UFC tomorrow. (Dana White) is a friend of mine. Not only is
he a friend of
mine, he is a
businessman, and not to have me fight on the card would be retarded. Why
wouldn’t you want
me to fight on your
show? Every one of my fights is exciting. I bring more to the table than
anybody. As far
as Frank Shamrock, I
have to adjust one thing he keeps saying (that) he is an artist, this and
that. Well
after I #**##@####**##
knock you out, Frank, I will buy you a box of crayons and a coloring book,
and you
can go be a
#**##@####**## artist. But this is not a #**##@####**## artist, and this
is not going to be a
martial arts
exhibition, #**##@####**##. This is going to be a #**##@####**## fight. Do
you get it? I am
not here to
#**##@####**## do the #**##@####**##… I do not know what the
#**##@####**## this dude
is talking about
martial arts. I am a #**##@####**## fighter. I have been a fighter since
the day I was born.
You are going to get in
a fight. There is going to be a fight. I am going to take your
#**##@####**## head
off. I am going to
pound you the #**##@####**## out. This is not a #**##@####**## … I do not
know. I do
not know what he is
talking about martial artist and paint the picture, this is what I do. If
this is what you
do, you do it. I have
been doing it. This is what I have been doing. I do it in the street, I do
it in the ring, I
have been doing it my
whole life. I am a #**##@####**## fighter. I do not know what a
#**##@####**##
martial artist is, but
man, this #**##@####**## guy is just a retard. He is in #**##@####**##
la-la land, you
know? I do not know
where the #**##@####**## he is from. I am a #**##@####**## fighter, you
know?
Man, I do not get this
cat. You are in for a rude awakening, dude. You are in for a rude
awakening. You are
going to get
#**##@####**## up.
Shamrock:
That is why they call him the “New York Bad Ass.’’.
- Question: Phil, if you knock out Frank, you have been promised a UFC
middleweight title shot,
right?
Baroni:
(White) promised me a title shot. He promised me a big bonus. Again, the
difference between me
and Shamrock is not
about the money. I grew up poor. I have always been poor. I can care less
about the
money. It is not about
the money for me. It is about setting goals and accomplishing them. I set
high goals
for myself. There are
about six billion people in the world, and there is one middleweight
champion. I plan
on being that one guy.
You only have one life and I want to do the most with mine, and this is
what I
choose to do. It is not
about being an artist, and painting #**##@####**## pictures, or
#**##@####**##
teaching old ladies how
to defend themselves in karate, and all this #**##@####**##. It is about
getting in
the #**##@####**##
cage. Do not make it what it is not. It is a #**##@####**## fight. It is
two men going
into a cage, and seeing
who is the #**##@####**## bigger man. I guarantee on June 22, Judgment
Day, I
will be the bigger man.
Frank Shamrock is going to get #**##@####**## weighed, measured and found
lacking.
- Question: Frank, the
origin of this fight came on interviews you cut on the internet. How
effective
can promoting on the
internet be, and do you expect the popularity of this fight to be
generated
solely from the
internet?
Shamrock:
Well, it is obviously an effective tool. It is reaching a demographic that
is supporting our sport,
at least in the masses.
It was a huge tool for us. We had a lot of trouble getting Baroni to sign.
He had
some issues and
what-not, and we used the internet as a huge marketing tool to push him
into that
position and get him to
commit. Really this whole fight was born on the internet from Phil getting
on there
and being his
wonderful, vibrant self, and creating some energy behind this fight, which
otherwise would
have never happened.
- Question: Phil, what were
your reactions to the skits that Frank produced and conducted?
Baroni:
He is patting himself on the back thinking that had anything to do with me
getting in the fight. I
could care less. I just
had my manager and my agent negotiating me a better deal. I always wanted
to fight
the guy. You believe I
did. He credits himself as a businessman. I got as much as I can out of
this. So he
has to pat himself on
the back with his little stupid videos. That is not what made me want to
fight him. I do
not know what it really
did, really for anybody, but cracked me up. It had nothing to do with me
signing. I
will fight anyone any
time. I have always said it, and I have always done it. I have fought
nothing but the
best, and I finally get
a fight against someone who is the top five in the world.
- Question: Phil, what was
your reaction once the fight with Frank was made?
Baroni:
I was a happy man. I was
excited about the opportunity to knock his “butt” out. I did not think he
would be dumb enough to
sign the contract, but he did. I was just happy about being able to be the
one to
knock his “butt” out.
- Question: Phil, what has
Shawn Tompkins added to your arsenal as a fighter, and second, what is
the status of your
legal case in Florida? Has that been having any interference with the lead
up to
this fight? Are you
clear? What is the status of that?
Baroni:
Well first, Shawn Tompkins is a great trainer. I finally found someone
that has a similar style and a
similar attitude on
fighting as me. Someone who likes to get in there gritty and with similar
body styles. I
have had a lot of great
coaches. I have worked with a lot of top guys. This will probably be a
ground fight
thanks to Frank. As far
as my legal case goes, it is being handled. I am not going to worry about
it until
after my fight. I could
care less, really. I cannot worry about it right now. I am innocent until
proven guilty.
- Question: Will it go to
trial?
Baroni:
I have no idea right now. It
will be taken care of after this fight. I hope not.
- Question: Frank, your
fight in February was your first in quite awhile. How disappointing was it
afterwards, and how
long did it take you to get over the fact that you lost on DQ? Are you
over
that, or is that
still lingering in your mind how that fight ended up?
- Shamrock:
It is what it is. I accepted it. I was pretty down for a couple weeks, but
it is part of the game,
and that is how I look
at it. Nothing else I can do about it. I will get it back on the rematch,
and I will put it
to rest then.
- Question: Do you feel,
after watching it, that the call was just?
Shamrock:
This is my personal opinion, and that is that he was looking for a way
out. I could hear the guy.
I know about fighting.
I have been fighting for 13 years as a pro, and I barely touched the guy,
and the guy
was looking for a way
out. That is just my personal opinion, and some people do not like it, and
some
people do not care.
That is just the way I feel, and I have been taught to speak the truth and
roll with it.
That is what I believe
the truth is.
- Question: Frank, leading
up to the fight you had mentioned that you had a lot of respect for him.
Did the outcome of
that fight change how you feel about him?
Shamrock:
No. He saw an opportunity to
take the win, and he was not going to win any other way. So I
think the guy is a
pretty intelligent guy. I still think he is a great fighter, but it is
what it is, and I do not
know Renzo personally.
I still have a lot of respect for him. Fighting is fighting is fighting.
- Question: Frank, does it
concern you at all that you had a lot less activity in the ring in the
last
seven years compared
to Phil, and that your more recent successes have been arguably against
less experienced
opponents than he has? If not, why?
Shamrock:
No, it does not concern me. I train every day, and Phil does not get this,
but I am an artist, so I
work out, I train, I
study fighting every single day. I train my team, and I train my Razor
Claws. For me, not
fighting is … I have
not had a chance to party in the ring for awhile. Every time I walk in I
just feel like I am
home again. It is what
it is.
- Question: Phil, you have
said this was a do or die time in your career, and that you wanted to
take it to the next
level. Are you where you want to be in terms of the opportunities? Do you
feel
like you have a good
opportunity to do that? To fulfill those goals?
Baroni:
Yes, it is a big opportunity.
It is a huge opportunity. I may not like the guy, but the bottom line is
he
is a legend, and he
probably has more moves than I know, but the difference is I am a fighter.
I do not
#**##@####**## study
fighting. I fight. I get in there and I #**##@####**## do what I do. That
is fight. I do
not #**##@####**##
study, I do not teach or “bull” like that, or anything he does. I do not
understand what
he does. I do not think
about fighting, I #**##@####**## do it. I do not have a manual and read
it. I just go
in there and mix it up.
It is a big opportunity for me. The guy is a legend and he has fought all
over the
world. He fought good
fighters, but I’m not here for a #**##@####**## picture. I am here to
break his
#**##@####**## head. It
is going to come down to who wants it more. I think he is in it for the
money and
the popularity of the
sport right now, and I think I am in it to be a champion. He said he has
won a lot of
titles, more titles
than other fighters, and I do not think he is hungry. Not like me. Hungry
for the money,
but when it comes down
to checking our gloves, and who wants it more, I am going to beat him. I
am going
to push through it. I
am going to push harder, and I am going to knock him out. I am going to
make him
quit. I am going to
find that soft spot and lay in it. I am not concerned about his cardio, or
about what
techniques he has,
because I am going to make it a fight. It is not going to be a technical
match. It is not
going to be who knows
more. I am going to come out, guns blazing, and he is not going to weather
it. He is
going to be there for
five #**##@####**## rounds. He is not #**##@####**## weathering it. He is
going to
get #**##@####**##
chopped up, spit out, and laid to rest. It is a big fight, there is a lot
on the line. I
cannot afford to lose
to this guy. I have been in big fights before, and I have always taken
care of my
business. I cannot
afford to lose to this guy. There is a lot of pressure on me. They have me
training my
“butt” off. I am in
phenomenal shape. I am bigger and stronger than I have ever been in my
career. I am
focused, and I am in a
better place in my life than I have ever been before. I am going to take
it to this guy.
It is time for me to
take his place. Pick up where he has left off. He is going to pass the
torch on the 22nd.
He is well rounded, he
is a good athlete. He studies fighting, whatever the #**##@####**## that
means,
but I know, from
watching his tapes, from what I know from other fighters the guy can
fight. He is a great
athlete, a great
competitor. But so am I. It is my time. This is my destiny. I have been
waiting for this
moment my entire life,
and I am not going to come up short. I am taking care of my business.
- Question: Frank, it seems
early on in the buildup to this fight, the attacks became pretty personal
against Phil. Why
did they become so personal so quickly?
Shamrock:
Basically I was just reiterating back to Phil and what he had started on
the internet. I mean,
obviously that is how
you sell a fight, and obviously that was the name of the game. The truth
is, I trained to
fight Phil, and then
all of a sudden he had some personal issues and he could not sign, and
they wanted to
renegotiate or whatever
they wanted to do. I looked at it as a business opportunity. We needed to
get the
media and the public
behind getting this fight to really truly happen, and the only way to do
that, I felt, was
to make him look like
the fool. Here we are now.
- Question: You consider
yourself a martial artist and Phil considers himself a fighter. In your
opinion, what is the
difference?
Shamrock:
Well, the difference in my
opinion is one person lives their life a certain way, by a certain code,
and the other does not.
To me it is fighting. Phil is in for a really rude awakening, because I
fight everybody
in the world, and I
have trained with everybody in the world, and I know what my skill set is.
It is about the
way you live your life,
and the way you hold yourself, and present yourself to the world. That is
how I
present myself.
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