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Thefightgame.tv had a chance to speak with Arizona's Rage in the Cage 6' 1", 240 lb. heavyweight champion Andy Montana a couple of weeks back. We apologize for taking so long to post it. Andy came across as a great ambassador of martial arts and a great person to speak with.
TFG.tv: Hey Andy, how did you get started in martial arts?
AM: It’s kind of funny because, I'd say, it was about three years ago now, we’re at this local club here in Phoenix called club Rio and there started this one (fighting event), when they first started to come out here in Phoenix anyway, and they were looking for fighters. Kind of one of those deals where I just said oh, I’ll do it. And set all of my paperwork and waivers, this and that...and I had a wrestling background in high school, wrestled for Casa Grand high school here and graduated in ’94...already had like a wrestling background anyway and went in there and took the guy down and just pretty much put a head lock on him at the time and and I didn’t know anything, no submission moves or nothing (chuckling). I just ended up winning that one. That was probably three or four years ago. And then two years ago, my trainer now , Matt Asher, he opened up a gym here in Casa Grand, and I was introduced to him and I told him about my little fight that I had and he wanted to know if I wanted to do it full time or try it out and keep training stuff and I said, yeah, sure. So, that’s where I first got started. Then in November of 2000 is when I had my first official cage fight in Phoenix at Rage in the Cage against a guy named Heath Perry out of Phoenix and I beat him with a keylock in the first round. That’s how I got started.
TFG.tv: Do you study a traditional martial art like tae kwon do, kung fu or karate, Jiu-jitsu or are you sticking with the mixed martial arts - just cross training all over the place?
AM: Just cross training right now. Mostly what I do is, we practice our muay thai and boxing and jiu-jitsu. I coach wrestling at the high school here in Casa Grand still. And so I roll around with the guys there with wrestling. Mostly...what we do now is mostly Muay Thai or stand-up and then jiu-jitsu on the ground. I pretty much go through everything.
TFG.tv: So you made the transition into MMA, so now what's it like for you to fight in the cage in front of all the people?
AM: Now...in my first couple of fights, I was nervous. Now when I get in there, it’s nothing... it’s like stepping on a wrestling mat and stuff just like in high school. Get in the cage and the butterflies are gone, just get in there, do what I need to do and take care of business and shake the guys hand when we’re done. So now, it’s …lately...I’ve been fighting a lot of tougher guys now than when I first stared out. I fought...my first one was Travis Wiuff from Minnesota that was in March of last year and I lost a decision to him and going into that fight, all I heard was Travis Wiuff, Travis Wiuff, Travis Wiuff, he’s a big guy. He’s this and that, whatever, but when I fought him, he’s just like any other guy...like I've fought. And you know, to me, at that time, I was at that level...I felt I was already at that level. I still got things I need to work on and stuff. But at that time, after I lost the decision, you know, the guy had been knocking people out, this and that, it was a close decision...I felt I won but it went the other way and from then on, my confidence was real high. And I ended up winning a couple other fights after that. Then I fought Aaron Brinke out of San Diego and I beat him...we went...it was a toe-to-toe war... the first round and I pretty much dominated the whole first round on him and then I beat him in the second round with an arm bar. So that... ever since then, people look at me more. My name is out there more. And just from those two big fights, kind of help me out I think.
TFG.tv: So being champ really put your name out there?
AM: Yeah
TFG.tv: So what’s it like being champ? Do people treat you differently now that you got the title?
AM: Yeah, it’s a lot different now. I mean, now, that way I look at it, is that I made it to the top and I had to fight everybody to get where I am now, and now, everyone wants a shot at me so I got to train harder, keep working hard, everything else, more than what I use to... because everybody is coming after me now. And here in my home town, all the fighters are well known and you know, it helps out, you know. I’m Native American (Tohono O’Odham), so a lot of Native American people down on the reservations look up to me and I like that a lot, and I want to try to bring it back to them just, you know, hold conferences, hold camp, just speak to the youth. Mostly, that’s really what I want to do. But yeah, it has its benefit. And you know, it has its down too. So...
TFG.tv: Because everyone wants a piece of you.
AM: (Chuckling) yeah, everyone wants me.
TFG.tv: What's your training regime like today?
AM: Like now, in the mornings, I’ll go lift weights. I’ll do all my weightlifting and stuff, then I’ll do my cardio. Usually run about two miles a day. And do everything...lifting, shoulders, chest, bi’s, tri’s, everything...In the afternoon, I go to the gym about 4:30(pm) and start focus reps, working our boxing, kickboxing, just mostly focus reps, for about five rounds each, each fighter and after that, we’ll do our grappling. We'll drill our holds and then we’ll grapple live, and then we’ll do wrestling takedowns, and then we’ll go back to the heavy bags, and do about five rounds on those. And then after that, pretty much whatever else we need to work on. So, it’s pretty much all day.
TFG.tv: Now that you’re Rage in the Cage champ, do you aspire to go to PRIDE?
AM: Yeah, I really want to. I heard that Japan people are very, very excited people about the fights that they have over there. It could be anything going on, just the attendance, the way they cheer the fighters on, they treat them like idols over there so I really like PRIDE a lot. The UFC is different, because you go into different towns, so it’s the kind of crowds you get. You pretty much get the same crowd. But I like Japan…
TFG.tv: Yeah, in Japan it’s accepted - they can get 70,000 people in the Superdome…You would be in the heavyweight division, you would be going up against the big boys.
AM: Yeah (chuckling), yeah, and I just watched the last PRIDE and it had a couple of the big boys on there and yeah, there is some great competition right there.
TFG.tv: Speaking of the big boys, you must be familiar now with (Mike) Tyson signing with K-1... does it kind of get you angry that somebody like Bob Sapp, who by his own admission, isn’t that technical and isn’t that great, gets all this attention but yet all the guys who are working their butts off here is the states who are the champs just don’t get the recognition.?
AM: No, no, I know that, they just…I don’t know. I just think it starts with the physique. A lot of it is who you know, and that’s how they get in.
TFG.tv: Do you think Tyson is going to do alright?
AM: Yeah, if he doesn’t bite anyone's ear off, he’ll be alright...
TFG.tv: (laughing)
AM: (Chuckling) ...if he keeps his head low. I mean, I think he should enter MMA...I mean, he’s was a real good boxer back in his day, and after he lost his titles, he kind of went down hill from there. I think he needs something new to get into where he can be involve. There’s a lot more... other rules where he plays a role, and I think he would fit in more.
TFG.tv: Is there anybody you would like to fight?
AM: I’d really like to fight anybody...anybody, just to keep my name out there. I mean, I like tough competition. I like training hard for tough competitions. It keeps me motivated...and pretty much anybody now.
TFG.tv: Any chance we would see you out here in California like at a King of the Cage or Gladiator Challenge?
AM: Yeah...yeah, I would like to go to King of the Cage. I had the opportunity to go but they had already found a replacement. I was going to fight Scary Jerry...when he recently fought...I think it was August 2nd. I think that’s when it was. It was sometime in August. But they had already filled that spot in. And I was looking forward to fighting him because I’ve heard of him too, he’s been around.
TFG.tv: Yeah, he just fought in the IFC. He did pretty well by all accounts but gassed out against Ron Waterman.
AM: Yeah... if I do go (to King of the Cage), I’d like to fight Wade Shipp. I heard about Wade Shipp. He’s doing pretty good over there.
TFG.tv: Here’s one for you, if you were put in charge of all MMA, outside of legalizing it, what would you change to make it better?
AM: Here in Arizona, the rules are different...versus outside that state of Arizona. They got no knees to the head, no knees to the body on the ground, open hand on the ground, if your standing, there’s closed fist to the head, no knees to the head, knees to the body. There's a bunch of rules...I think to make it a true... I’m not really to fond of the vale tudo events but I mean, here in Arizona, it’s not a true MMA sport because you have all these rules. I think in Arizona, I probably change it to make it, you know, full contact, you know, UFC type, King of the Cage rules just in Arizona. Outside of Arizona, I would just try to promote that the sport isn’t what it sounds like. I’d just promote it as, you know, an MMA event. It’s not two people going in there to kill each other or break their necks, arms, this or that or whatever. I’d just try to promote it more where it’s a style, it’s an event, it’s a sport.
TFG.tv: It’s a lot safer than football.
AM: Yeah... yeah, but mostly that’s what I do. I mostly promote the safety of it. Get in more detail of it. And just treat it like a true sport.
TFG.tv: Did you go down to Mexico and fight in Combate Extremo?
AM: Yeah, well, I was scheduled to fight but...he was fighter from Amarillo. He backed-out because he wanted more money to fight me because they back tracked who I was, this and that and whatever, they said, well, if I’m going to fight him, pay me a little bit more, and they didn't want to pay, so he just backed-out, he never showed, so I didn’t get to fight. Three of my teammates went, and they fought. I was looking forward to that. Because of the rules and stuff. You know, I practice everything, my elbows and knees and everything else too. So I wanted to see how I could do, you know, in a full contact UFC type rules but I didn’t get that chance. I went to Indiana in May and they have the same type rules, I guess they are not governed by commissions or anything and they have UFC type rules there. I was suppose to fight Brian VanderWal from Ohio and he backed out last minute too so I never got to fight over there either. So that’s one of the things that have been happening to me lately. I'll go somewhere and somebody will back out. I don’t know what it is. Even here, a couple of times its happened. They "no show" or they back-out, that’s getting irritating too.
TFG.tv: Any props to anybody?
AM: Yeah, my managers, John Brotralli and Adolph Sanchez, they’re the ones doing all the dirty work for me, just handling all my phone calls, my sponsors, everything, this, that, whatever. My sponsors are Machine Tool Calibration Co. here in Casa Grand, I got Red Bull energy drink, and 103.9FM Edge to sponsor me.
TFG.tv: Any thing you want them to know about Andy Montana who may have never seen Rage in the Cage:?
AM: If they want to get to know me a bit better, just visit my website: www.andymont.com. Just look out for me because I’m coming.
TFG.tv: We’ll Andy, we appreciate your time.
AM: No problem
Thefightgame.tv would once again like to thank Andy for his time and the use of his pictures.
(9/30/03)
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